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Paul Cutler
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What attracted you to PEAL training?   
The PEAL training covers so many things I am passionate about. For many years I have worked with parents to support them to have a voice and contribute to children's services. Now with PEAL I am part of a practical model that recognises how important parents are and the role they play in children's learning. And the fact that PEAL is evidence-based and draws on a range of research is very exciting - it makes that research accessible to practitioners and parents and they can then use it to innovate and advocate for service developments and new ways of working. One of the PEAL mantras from the research is for parents 'it is not who you are, it is what you do that counts'. I think this message is liberating and empowering. It demonstrates that parents from all parts of society have something special to contribute to their children's learning.

The PEAL training is participatory. There are lots of exercises, small group discussions, scenario discussions and debates. I like this type of training and I believe it is more effective in engaging and inspiring people. Often people come to the PEAL workshops fearing a long series of presentations and lectures, or worse some written tests. What they find is that PEAL is fun, dynamic and gives them an opportunity to network with other professionals. And they get a wonderful toolkit of resources at the end of the day to take back to their settings and use. All participants leave the workshops with action plans to involve their parents. So I really think PEAL is one of those projects that has an impact after the training.

The other thing is that the PEAL team are great. The support and backup you get as a trainer is amazing. The other trainers are a varied and experienced bunch. It is great to be part of a wider team.

What have you learned from the sessions; anything that surprised you?
That practitioners from early years children centres are passionate, creative and so willing to learn and share. We have had such a diversity of people participating on PEAL workshops. From very experienced practitioners and managers to younger staff and people in their first jobs. We have had people who work in the crèche, the baby room, in stay-and-play groups, in family support settings and in office settings. We have had people with early years backgrounds, health backgrounds and education backgrounds. From children's centres and from the private and voluntary sector. Women and to a lesser extent men.

One very powerful experience happened in a workshop in London. Throughout the training there had been one very experienced participant who had given many wonderful examples of good practice. Many others in the group were looking up to her as a bit of a role model. Towards the end of the day we were discussing confidence and how to work with parents. Spontaneously she stood up and said 'I want to tell the group that though I think I work well with parents, inside I never felt confident in my work with them. Today has been the first day I have been able to explore my work directly with parents rather than with children. Now I feel able to be honest with myself and build my confidence'. The group gave her a round of applause. What she had done through her honesty was give other practitioners the confidence to be honest and recognise the value of spending time working on new skills.

 

How do you think your previous experiences help you to run PEAL sessions in your own particular way?
I am by nature a very participatory trainer. This is something I have learned over the years in my community development and international work. People learn best by doing and by sharing together. The role of the trainer is to facilitate the sessions, provide some material and lead some exercises. I enjoy facilitating debate and getting everyone involved. I also think my experiences of working with mixed groups has been valuable - particularly groups of the powerful and the less powerful. In the PEAL workshops there are often a mix of quite senior people and also some quite young and junior people. It is important to manage these dynamics well and make everyone feel equally important and respected. By nature I am a bit of an iconoclast. I often like to make the point that to parents and service users, roles and titles are not so important. Whether you are the chief executive or the cleaner in an organisation, what matters more is how you respect and welcome people and how you treat their child. So I always show my appreciation of the junior staff who are perhaps doing some of the most important jobs in a children's centre such as working in the baby room or the crèche. Regardless of status and role we all have the opportunity to make a real difference.

 

If you weren't running PEAL you might be found... 
Well, as a self-employed person I could potentially be found anywhere across the UK working for a customer. I do a lot of consultancy and training. My specialisms are in involvement, community engagement, communications and participation. This year I have been very busy working for ten different organisations and doing some really interesting things. I am lucky that I decided a long time ago that I wanted to work in many different areas so I seek out work with various groups including children and young people, people with mental health problems, older people and patients' groups. And what I have found is that all these areas are actually related. Most families have children and older people, have disabled people, have people who are patients. Families are much more diverse than the boxes professionals sometimes put them in. I enjoy being self-employed. I can be my own boss but at the same time there is the discipline of never being able to have an off day because you will probably never hear from that customer again.

Outside of my self-employed business I have two other work related passions. I co-founded a social enterprise several years ago that raises money in the UK and runs a grants programme in India, Central Asia and Eastern Europe for users of mental health services. What we found was that user led projects such as self-help and community action are very effective but few of the big donors seem prepared to give funds directly to users. So we give small grants to user led projects - these are run by people we know who have come out of some of the grim psychiatric hospitals across the world and who have lived the journey of being a survivor and want to make a difference. The other thing I do is I am a Non-Executive Director of a Primary Care Trust in the NHS - I am that nagging voice on the board that keeps saying 'what about the patient's perspective, lets listen and involve local people'.

 

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